TABLE TALK

Do you think that people should play more like you? Has anyone at the poker table ever told you to write a book? Well here is your chance. Table Talk is an online collection of poker theories that the EPC Poker community is compiling together. So let us know what we are all doing wrong and submit your articles.

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"Playing To Win vs. Moving Up In The Money " by Kevin "Hollywood" Zepik

April, 2, 2009
Player Opinion
by EPC Poker

Are they bluffing? How aggressive is my opponent? Can I get them off of the hand? What is my table image?

These are just some of the many questions we ask ourselves over and over again during the course of a poker tournament.

Poker is a game of variables that we decipher in order to make what we think is the right decision. Their is no one correct path that we have to choose during a tournament that will lead us to victory. In fact their are many paths that lead us to the finish line. Fortunately we do have tools and theories that we can use to better understand the decisions we have to make. But it all boils down to the individual opinion of each player.

I can't count how many times in a tournament I have had a player come up to share their latest bad beat. They explain the hand and give great reasons why their opponent played incorrectly. Minutes later I will have another player come up to tell me what a great play they had just made. They will explain the hand and give great reasons why they made the right call. The two stories sound completely different depending on the side of story you are on. Both players are right in a sense and both players are wrong in another. It all comes down to the individual players opinion and that is the great thing about poker. You can argue until you are blue in the face but you will never change how someone else thinks.

That is what the Table Talk section is all about. It is a place for players who like to think they have a great opinion or theory to share with rest of us. So submit your articles and you never know, we all might just learn something.

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April, 23, 2009

Playing To Win vs. Moving Up In The Money

by Kevin "Hollywood" Zepik

When it comes to poker, everyone has an opinion. Well except those of you who have absolutely no idea what you're doing. Your only poker strategies are organizing your chips by colour and making the little markings on the side line up. For everyone else, you all have your ways of playing, and can be broken down and sorted categorically. Instead of merely pointing out the glaring flaws in the various "types" of players I encounter on a weekly basis, I'm simply going to share some of my opinions, observations, and strategies for NLH in the hopes that some of you might gain a more outside-the-box perspective on poker. The first, in my series of articles, is called: Playing To Win vs. Moving Up In The Money

Go big or go home. A popular extreme sport adage that you can apply to many different things, even poker. You see the concept of "Playing just to have fun" was apparently lost on me as a child. Call it over-competitiveness, but when I play a sport or a game, I intend on winning. Competition is what pushes us to improve. Poker is no exception. There are few things that will actually get me legitimately angry at the poker table, but one is when someone dumps chips or intentionally plays stupid because "they want to go home" or they lost some chips and they've just given up. If you're not here to try, stay home. It's as simple as that.

Now when it comes to winning a tournament there are many ways to try and do it. The easiest (well let's say the one with the least effort involved) is to just catch a hot run of cards and luck-sack your way to the finish line. For those of us who don't have an ass full of horseshoes, we have to put a bit more work into it. The best way to build a stack that will get you into contention is to start early. The beginning parts of the tournament aren't as crucial since the blinds and pots are so small. The key point is where it breaks into the final 2 or 3 tables, a couple levels in after the break. This is where the dynamic starts to change and you get a lot of players either pushing or tightening up. In either case this is when you want to get your hands on some chips so you can keep your stack at least average so you can make the right moves when good opportunities arise. I could go on for pages about basic strategy but that's not the point of this article. Lets move on.

The following examples are by no means risk free. In fact there is more risk than the standard play of simply waiting for a big hand. Sometimes a lot more risk. The upside is that with greater risk comes greater reward. You may face elimination a bit sooner than if you just grind it out, but if it pays off you'll be back in the game without the need for a big hand. Now when you do get that big hand to bring to war, you'll have a much bigger arsenal to throw at it.

Grinding your stack to nothing. aka "Seat Fillers"

There's at least one in every tournament. You know, the player that sits there blinding out, only playing premium hands. Grinding themselves down to 1 or 2 big blinds until they're finally forced all in and eliminated. Seat Fillers perplex me. I just don't understand how someone can grind themselves to nothing, without so much as last hurrah. It's disrespectful to your stack and disrespectful to yourself. If I'm going down I'm at least going to go down fighting. That way if I do make a double-up, I have a shot. Not just delaying the inevitable. If I find myself short stacked at the final table, I'll look to get my chips in with what I believe are live cards in high equity pots. Good situations would be a tight player finally pushing in what's left of his stack with what is most likely an ace. Even without another caller, I'm likely looking at 2-1 or even 3-1 depending on the size of my stack, as well as the blinds and antes. Hands I like in this spot are medium connecters like QJ,Q10,J10,J9,Q9,87,86. Suits are irregardless. Going in against the ace-rag with middle cards like J,10 makes me barely less than a coin-flip. As much as I hate the all-in coin-flip, I can't turn down the 3:1 payout with a hand that's only a 4:5 dog. If a cursed fate befalls me and I'm looking down at a measly 2 or 3 big blinds in my stack in early position, look for me to get it in there before the big blind comes to me. Situation is critical, and if I'm getting back into this i need chips now! I will almost NEVER wait until my big blind to push. I'd would rather get my money in under the gun with both blinds in the hand to attack. This way I get the best odds on my money. 2 big blinds left, under the gun? The other action doesn't matter, hell my cards don't even matter. It's time for that last hurrah!

The Implicit Delusion.

Implicit Collusion. The non-verbal agreement during a tournament for all those still in a hand, with a person all-in, to check it down to maximize the odds of eliminating them. I'm not here to convince you to do this. You should be doing it. It's a good play that I go along with the majority of the time. I want to discuss the times you SHOULDN'T go along with it, and no I'm not talking about when you have the nuts. During an all-in check down, I try to assess how this outcome will affect me. If it's a very cunning and dangerous player my best option is usually to make sure they're eliminated. There are times however that it's worth isolating out my colluders to try and take the pot for myself. First, if the side pot is enough to almost or fully cover my investment in the hand so far, I'll look for a good spot to isolate. With the side pot won I'm basically free-rolling the all-in. Another good spot is if I think they pushed on a weak hand I'll look to isolate. Usually after the flop. I also like to isolate if I think I have the best hand on the flop, but am likely to lose by the river. Top pair with a 10 is great on the flop heads up, but with 1 or 2 more callers in there I'm not likely to hold up by the river. The reason I like to make my plays after the flop is because I'm much less likely to be called by a medium hand or a draw. Most average players firmly believe a bettor in this situation must have the nuts, so they'll fold. This reason is also why I wouldn't try this against a beginner or a donk who's likely to call all the way down with his Ace high. I've found this to be a very profitable play when used at the right times, for the right reasons but most of the time the size of the pot, number of players remaining, or the odds of successfully taking it down make simply checking the better play. To make proper use of this play you have to be able to put aside the notion of playing with the table to knock the player out. Poker is NOT a team sport. If making a move at the pot rather than checking will put you in a better spot to win the tournament, have at it. You will encounter hostility using this play. People, get cranky about folding what would have been the winning hand and won't hesitate to berate your play. Don't let it discourage you though. You can simply smile as you use those newly acquired chips to eliminate them on the bubble.

These are just a couple of examples of how you can increase your chances of walking out on top. Some may come at the expense of your fellow players, but poker is war! If you're not ready to do whatever it takes to win, you should just stick to something less confrontational. Like solitaire. But be forewarned: sometimes you'll look like a genius, and sometimes you may blow it and look like an idiot. Remember, no matter how many players make it into the money at the WSOP, only the winner takes home the bracelet. Frankly I'd rather be the champ than an also-ran.

 

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